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LEE
on 9/16/12 7:34 am
on 9/16/12 7:34 am
Topic: RE: PROTEING TRAIN RIDE
Count me out. Low carb turns me into a ***** Becca calls it the Low Carb High Anger diet.
Salty Pickle a.k.a. Lee
Topic: RE: MsLEE WHERE R U? THIS HISSY FIT NEEDS UR SUPPORT!
MsLEE, Much Luv! I've missed you. I need you. How you know my pain maybe even better than I do.
I'm so sorry you are so near your previous weight. I can only imagine how you feel because I know how depressed I am being just 11 lbs shy of the obese mark. You will get that fat off again. You must. Becca is your rock so tell her to boulder up and support you in this. Se is your positive example that it can and will happen. Harder for sure the second time around but you are fully capable of getting this done.
Calories are under control; well below my forever 1100 limit but I'm eating the wrong foods. No shakes and way off of my plan. This is a low carb version of the extreme fat smash diet for real.
I'm doing it because I have no choice. Also, I am still bitter that efs has kicked my ass over a dozen times. Low carb is fine but getting back to the shakes is a ***** They just don't want to go down and with my allergies I'm limited to egg white powder. RTDs are all soy and/ or whey.
We will do this because we did not carve up our insides to give up. I can still squeeze into my jeans but I was up to 163 lbs on Thursday in a size four dress and feeling it hug me. My personal sucide consideration mark is 150 lbs and a size two plus I'm filled with roid rage and constantly a starving bottomless pit.
Been eating lettuce, avocados, no cal dresssing, fish, chicken, shrimp. As of today I am off the air popped pop corn to get the carbs under cotrol. Tomorrow its on to the shakes. I have to get on this plan but no fruit cause its a trigger sometimes. We agreed I would substitute salad or veg.
The doc wants me on shakes for a month and I looked him in the eye and committed. I meant it when I said it and I will do it. I'm just a few days late starting out.
I'm going to weigh myself in a few minutes. Not daily but maybe twice a week or so. Goal is 135 lbs max fully dressed at mid day so its apples to apples with my surgeon visits. That means I gotta loose 30 + lbs. He don't play. I'm getting pumped up again with the drugs this week & I could be up 100 lbs by next month.
This time I have to make efs work. I can't exercise much. No energy, no strength, but that will get back to normal eventually. I've got to clear my metabolism of the carbs and up my protein level. Thank God the calories are working out ok but this EFS-esque jump start plan is going to slash that to about 700 I'm guessing.
We must do whatever it takes. I know you hate to low carb but maybe you should give this version a try. The protein will help to preserve your muscle. You will get your protein needs in for sure even wih the low calories. This is actually hgher than my usual maintenance protein. We can do this! We have each others back. We WILL do this.
MsLEE, Much Luv! I've missed you. I need you. How you know my pain maybe even better than I do. I'm so sorry you are so near your previous weight. I can only imagine how you feel because I know how depressed I am being just 11 lbs shy of the obese mark. You will get that fat off again. You must. Becca is your rock so tell her to boulder up and support you in this. Se is your positive example that it can and will happen. Harder for sure the second time around but you are fully capable of getting this done.
Calories are under control; well below my forever 1100 limit but I'm eating the wrong foods. No shakes and way off of my plan. This is a low carb version of the extreme fat smash diet for real.
I'm doing it because I have no choice. Also, I am still bitter that efs has kicked my ass over a dozen times. Low carb is fine but getting back to the shakes is a ***** They just don't want to go down and with my allergies I'm limited to egg white powder. RTDs are all soy and/ or whey.
We will do this because we did not carve up our insides to give up. I can still squeeze into my jeans but I was up to 163 lbs on Thursday in a size four dress and feeling it hug me. My personal sucide consideration mark is 150 lbs and a size two plus I'm filled with roid rage and constantly a starving bottomless pit.
Been eating lettuce, avocados, no cal dresssing, fish, chicken, shrimp. As of today I am off the air popped pop corn to get the carbs under cotrol. Tomorrow its on to the shakes. I have to get on this plan but no fruit cause its a trigger sometimes. We agreed I would substitute salad or veg.
The doc wants me on shakes for a month and I looked him in the eye and committed. I meant it when I said it and I will do it. I'm just a few days late starting out.
I'm going to weigh myself in a few minutes. Not daily but maybe twice a week or so. Goal is 135 lbs max fully dressed at mid day so its apples to apples with my surgeon visits. That means I gotta loose 30 + lbs. He don't play. I'm getting pumped up again with the drugs this week & I could be up 100 lbs by next month.
This time I have to make efs work. I can't exercise much. No energy, no strength, but that will get back to normal eventually. I've got to clear my metabolism of the carbs and up my protein level. Thank God the calories are working out ok but this EFS-esque jump start plan is going to slash that to about 700 I'm guessing.
We must do whatever it takes. I know you hate to low carb but maybe you should give this version a try. The protein will help to preserve your muscle. You will get your protein needs in for sure even wih the low calories. This is actually hgher than my usual maintenance protein. We can do this! We have each others back. We WILL do this.
LEE
on 9/16/12 12:35 am
on 9/16/12 12:35 am
Topic: RE: MsLEE WHERE R U? THIS HISSY FIT NEEDS UR SUPPORT!
That is the fat smash, I don't care what they call it, it's fat smash.
I am at a all time high right now and I suck. I have been eating right for the past six days but today I ate some extra snacks because it is the weekend which is always hard.
I am so desperate that I am doing EFS again even though I feel it eats muscle, I need to get this weight off before I am back at pre surger weight.
Come on Marcia, you can do this, because you are like me. No matter how many times we fail, we get up and keep trying over and over again.
Be strong sister.
I am at a all time high right now and I suck. I have been eating right for the past six days but today I ate some extra snacks because it is the weekend which is always hard.
I am so desperate that I am doing EFS again even though I feel it eats muscle, I need to get this weight off before I am back at pre surger weight.
Come on Marcia, you can do this, because you are like me. No matter how many times we fail, we get up and keep trying over and over again.
Be strong sister.
Salty Pickle a.k.a. Lee
Topic: MsLEE WHERE R U? THIS HISSY FIT NEEDS UR SUPPORT!
Those that know me have witnessed my raving lunatic periods over the years. Folks generally ignore me which I think is a good move for most. MsLee however understands me. God only knows why & how, but she always does.
Yeah I'm mad and while most sane folk would put it on their personal page, I am not among the fully sane. Therefore, I'm going to vent to all of BAF and show my @$$ in public.
Its long. I rant. I rave. I ***** I moan. I whine. I complain. Read it. Skip it. Flame it. This is your universe.
Take heart however; four separate times I have been certified non psychotic. Perhaps should I loose my non psycho clearance, I'll have a good story to tell but this unrelated tale is for some other time.
I digress... sigh...
My non obesity related health issues are out of control at the moment. That means meds are increased resulting in weight gain; suppress metabolism; over production of insulin; fatigue of the adrenal system; and induced cushings syndrome. In short: A metabolic nightmare.
Bottom line: I still have to loose the fat. I'm thirty pounds over my target weight as of yesterday. Metabolically challenged peeps like me gaining 70-100 lbs in a few weeks' time is not un heard of.
This is my diet for the next month given to me by my wl surgeon because I am already too fat and still gaining. I've been pumped up with steroids & the pounds are piling on daily. Add to that my thyroid is full to tender. Add to that I have not been able to get in a real quality calorie burning workout. And guess what?!? More steroids coming. Gotta LUV it being ME!
To halt the weight gain and get me back into weight loss mode I was given the following diet to "jump start" me back into weight loss. We've got folks protein training & looking for other ways to get back on point. I'm going to share what I received during my follow up visit. See the "Jump Start Diet" I was given yesterday below. Some may find it a useful plan to get back to basics.
This is what I learned at my 3+ years follow up:
1. ) If you are gaining weight you may need to have an upper to make sure all parts of your wls are still as they should be. I damned sure hope mine are but if something is broken it must be fixed. The causes of my troubles may seem obvious, but my doc does not make assumptions. He is checking it all out from the inside.
2. ) How many calories how far out is an on going debate. My separate physicians disagree on calories and on what I should weigh. I've been working with the middle of the road theory but it has kept me fluctuating 10-15 lbs over my target. This in spite of being the calculation for my "ideal weight" with my level of exercise.
There are many calories in vs calories out math equations. For some of us metabolism is a crap shoot because we have been obese. Add in other metabolic factors and many accepted norms do not apply. Starting now I have to drop my calorie count by 500 calories. Well below the "normal" calculation for my height, ideal weight, and exercise level you will find on any weight loss site.
3. ) Exercise matters but it may not count for your food intake. That is, we need it for good health but your actual metabolic burn may not reflect your activity level. Run an hour and burn 500 calories because you need the cardio. Metabolically you may still need to eat as though you never get off your @$$ all day. This is my situation.
4. ) Starvation mode is a real weight loss stopper for many with "normal" metabolisms. Cutting calories too deeply may even be counter productive with some medical conditions. For other folks, starvation is not easy even if you are often physically hungry.
My surgeon estimates I must eat max 1100 calories a day with cardio & strength daily to hit and maintain my target. That is half of what some calculators tell me and well below my endocrinologists recommendation. I know what has not worked to date. It will be minimal calorie eating to find what does work. No calorie adjustments for regular cardio & strength training permitted.
5. ) Prepare to respond to accusations of food phobia and developing eating disorders when you express concern over weight gain although you wear a "normal" size. I've heard this quackery from nutritionists since early post op. It is my good fortune that my surgeon understands metabolism and he is a wls patient himself.
Normal is not the same for all of us. I went in complaining that I may put out someones eye if a button flew off of my snug dress (which was a larger than usual size for me). Some doctors would say be glad you made it into the dress at all. I want the doctor that says lets get the fat off before you need a new wardrobe.
6. ) Dieting will never end for some of us. This is why I keep the word in my vocabulary. I am not among those who has wls; eats less; looses the fat; and maintains the weight loss. All as it should be.
Every pound was a fight right from the start. I had no wls honeymoon where I could watch the numbers fall. You may have to choose to fight from day one and continue the fight for life.
OK, I'm done *****ing. For now.
Those that know me have witnessed my raving lunatic periods over the years. Folks generally ignore me which I think is a good move for most. MsLee however understands me
. God only knows why & how, but she always does. Yeah I'm mad and while most sane folk would put it on their personal page, I am not among the fully sane. Therefore, I'm going to vent to all of BAF and show my @$$ in public.
Its long. I rant. I rave. I ***** I moan. I whine. I complain. Read it. Skip it. Flame it. This is your universe. Take heart however; four separate times I have been certified non psychotic. Perhaps should I loose my non psycho clearance, I'll have a good story to tell but this unrelated tale is for some other time.
I digress... sigh...My non obesity related health issues are out of control at the moment. That means meds are increased resulting in weight gain; suppress metabolism; over production of insulin; fatigue of the adrenal system; and induced cushings syndrome. In short: A metabolic nightmare.
Bottom line: I still have to loose the fat. I'm thirty pounds over my target weight as of yesterday. Metabolically challenged peeps like me gaining 70-100 lbs in a few weeks' time is not un heard of.
This is my diet for the next month given to me by my wl surgeon because I am already too fat and still gaining. I've been pumped up with steroids & the pounds are piling on daily. Add to that my thyroid is full to tender. Add to that I have not been able to get in a real quality calorie burning workout. And guess what?!? More steroids coming. Gotta LUV it being ME!
To halt the weight gain and get me back into weight loss mode I was given the following diet to "jump start" me back into weight loss. We've got folks protein training & looking for other ways to get back on point. I'm going to share what I received during my follow up visit. See the "Jump Start Diet" I was given yesterday below. Some may find it a useful plan to get back to basics.
This is what I learned at my 3+ years follow up:
1. ) If you are gaining weight you may need to have an upper to make sure all parts of your wls are still as they should be. I damned sure hope mine are but if something is broken it must be fixed. The causes of my troubles may seem obvious, but my doc does not make assumptions. He is checking it all out from the inside.
2. ) How many calories how far out is an on going debate. My separate physicians disagree on calories and on what I should weigh. I've been working with the middle of the road theory but it has kept me fluctuating 10-15 lbs over my target. This in spite of being the calculation for my "ideal weight" with my level of exercise.
There are many calories in vs calories out math equations. For some of us metabolism is a crap shoot because we have been obese. Add in other metabolic factors and many accepted norms do not apply. Starting now I have to drop my calorie count by 500 calories. Well below the "normal" calculation for my height, ideal weight, and exercise level you will find on any weight loss site.
3. ) Exercise matters but it may not count for your food intake. That is, we need it for good health but your actual metabolic burn may not reflect your activity level. Run an hour and burn 500 calories because you need the cardio. Metabolically you may still need to eat as though you never get off your @$$ all day. This is my situation.
4. ) Starvation mode is a real weight loss stopper for many with "normal" metabolisms. Cutting calories too deeply may even be counter productive with some medical conditions. For other folks, starvation is not easy even if you are often physically hungry.
My surgeon estimates I must eat max 1100 calories a day with cardio & strength daily to hit and maintain my target. That is half of what some calculators tell me and well below my endocrinologists recommendation. I know what has not worked to date. It will be minimal calorie eating to find what does work. No calorie adjustments for regular cardio & strength training permitted.
5. ) Prepare to respond to accusations of food phobia and developing eating disorders when you express concern over weight gain although you wear a "normal" size. I've heard this quackery from nutritionists since early post op. It is my good fortune that my surgeon understands metabolism and he is a wls patient himself.
Normal is not the same for all of us. I went in complaining that I may put out someones eye if a button flew off of my snug dress (which was a larger than usual size for me). Some doctors would say be glad you made it into the dress at all. I want the doctor that says lets get the fat off before you need a new wardrobe.
6. ) Dieting will never end for some of us. This is why I keep the word in my vocabulary. I am not among those who has wls; eats less; looses the fat; and maintains the weight loss. All as it should be.
Every pound was a fight right from the start. I had no wls honeymoon where I could watch the numbers fall. You may have to choose to fight from day one and continue the fight for life.
OK, I'm done *****ing. For now.
Topic: RE: Scared, Excited, Confused, Anxious
That's one of my biggest concerns also the sagging and being put to sleep. Like I haven't been put to sleep before. This is my second go around on the WLS, first one Realize Band '08 and next RNY. This will be my 3rd time put to sleep in a 12 year period; every 4 years starting in '04 with breast reduction. Something about this 3rd time, but when I look at the whole picture, I just pray and think about being healthy.
BLESSED AND HIGHLY FAVORED
Topic: RE: HOLD MY FEET TO THE FIRE! ACCOUNTABLE FOR BEING FAT
I am fat again, no doubt.
For too long (August, 2010 to be exact) I've been teetering on the edge of a normal bmi and above my ideal weight. Well I have gained fifteen pounds this past week. Yes folks, count em, 15 lbs. My wl surgeon put my still expanding @$$ on a diet yesterday and I am glad for it.
I have all the best reasons in the world for putting on real fat real fast. However, this tells me I need to work overtime to reverse the situation. Thank God my wl surgeon, while empathetic, is not having it. Neither am I.
While other well meaning and knowledgeable docs I see regularly are saying:
- This is the way you are made metabolically
- Plus you have other atypical issues, and
- A blah blah blah, and
- A yak yak yak...
My weight loss surgeon is saying time to get thirty pounds off your @$$ before you hit that obesity mark again. The "r" word as in revision never came up because neither of us are going to let it go there. Have issues? Take care of them pronto. Fortunately this most recent round of fat gain coincided with my long over due check up.
So folks, this is what it means to be several years out yet no where near a wls veteran. In my pov a true vet has it under control. They have developed a patttern of living that suits their needs and allows maintenance of a healthy weight in the best health they are able. Perfection is not expected or implied. Day to day they live so that inspite of their personal challenges with food, exercise etc, they will not become obese or seriously overweight again. Perhaps this verteran is still obese; but, they ensure day to day that they do not return to where they started. A line has been drawn in the sand and the veteran makes sure to stay on the correct side of that line.
That is not me. I am still a long way off. While I refuse to buy larger clothes for any reason, I struggle with food issues. On average my calories and exercise burn are pretty good. However, day to day I have a few big swings per month. I will get there but I'm not there yet.
Why am I fat again? I am not telling you. Why am I not telling you? Because of the words of our owm MsKim which I post every time I put this thread up:
NO MERCY AND NO EXCUSES
To explain here would distract from the point of my rambling on about weight gain. "Why" is something we will each need to work out for ourselves. "Why" is something some may be sympathetic towards and others view with contempt. "Why" may help determine how you address the issue of weight gain.
"WHY" WILL NOT FIX WEIGHT GAIN. WHAT MATTERS RIGHT NOW IS THAT YOU DO WHAT EVER IS NECESSARY TO LOOSE THE WEIGHT.
Three pounds do not have to become thirty pounds. Not having reached your goal weight after several years does not mean never reaching your goal weight. You do not have to feel shame for loosing the enthusiasm you started out with. You do not have to be embarrassed because someone may talk **** about your regain.
All of the above is other folk's baggage. Your baggage is to get the fat off of your @$$ for good. Let other folks pull their own little red wagons and concern yourself only with yours.
For too long (August, 2010 to be exact) I've been teetering on the edge of a normal bmi and above my ideal weight. Well I have gained fifteen pounds this past week. Yes folks, count em, 15 lbs. My wl surgeon put my still expanding @$$ on a diet yesterday and I am glad for it.
I have all the best reasons in the world for putting on real fat real fast. However, this tells me I need to work overtime to reverse the situation. Thank God my wl surgeon, while empathetic, is not having it. Neither am I.
While other well meaning and knowledgeable docs I see regularly are saying:
- This is the way you are made metabolically
- Plus you have other atypical issues, and
- A blah blah blah, and
- A yak yak yak...
My weight loss surgeon is saying time to get thirty pounds off your @$$ before you hit that obesity mark again. The "r" word as in revision never came up because neither of us are going to let it go there. Have issues? Take care of them pronto. Fortunately this most recent round of fat gain coincided with my long over due check up.
So folks, this is what it means to be several years out yet no where near a wls veteran. In my pov a true vet has it under control. They have developed a patttern of living that suits their needs and allows maintenance of a healthy weight in the best health they are able. Perfection is not expected or implied. Day to day they live so that inspite of their personal challenges with food, exercise etc, they will not become obese or seriously overweight again. Perhaps this verteran is still obese; but, they ensure day to day that they do not return to where they started. A line has been drawn in the sand and the veteran makes sure to stay on the correct side of that line.
That is not me. I am still a long way off. While I refuse to buy larger clothes for any reason, I struggle with food issues. On average my calories and exercise burn are pretty good. However, day to day I have a few big swings per month. I will get there but I'm not there yet.
Why am I fat again? I am not telling you. Why am I not telling you? Because of the words of our owm MsKim which I post every time I put this thread up:
NO MERCY AND NO EXCUSES
To explain here would distract from the point of my rambling on about weight gain. "Why" is something we will each need to work out for ourselves. "Why" is something some may be sympathetic towards and others view with contempt. "Why" may help determine how you address the issue of weight gain.
"WHY" WILL NOT FIX WEIGHT GAIN. WHAT MATTERS RIGHT NOW IS THAT YOU DO WHAT EVER IS NECESSARY TO LOOSE THE WEIGHT.
Three pounds do not have to become thirty pounds. Not having reached your goal weight after several years does not mean never reaching your goal weight. You do not have to feel shame for loosing the enthusiasm you started out with. You do not have to be embarrassed because someone may talk **** about your regain.
All of the above is other folk's baggage. Your baggage is to get the fat off of your @$$ for good. Let other folks pull their own little red wagons and concern yourself only with yours.
Topic: HOLD MY FEET TO THE FIRE! ACCOUNTABLE FOR BEING FAT
ACCOUNTABILITY MISSION: NO MERCY AND NO EXCUSES
TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH AND BE ACCOUNTABLE:
THERE IS ALWAYS A "WHY" BUT DO WE HAVE TO ACCEPT IT? Is it insufficient weight loss? Weight gain? Failure to meet your pre op goals to get wls approval? Difficulty doing this with diet and exercise alone?
What is your reason for being fat? Do you have to own it forever or can you let it go?
Pick one tihing that can make or break you today. Self sabotage opportunities always exist. Put it out there. No lies or self delusions. How are you really holding against your life time eating plan on a daily basis? How will you keep from breaking today? If you fall, what will it take to get right back up?
What is today's reason for doing less than you could? We can always find something that impedes our progress. The things that hold us back have a way of getting out attention. Have you noticed that the means to overcome our obstacles also stand up and cheer? Make a decision today: Will you focus on your desired outcome or on the obstacles to success.
TELL IT STRAIGHT PEOPLE. That is, be straight with YOURSELF. What are you eating? How are you exercising? What is working? What needs correcting? How are you objectively measuring your progress?
Think about what went well and what was not so nice recently. Consider what works for you and what is counter productive. Make a plan. Work your program. Be good to yourself today.
...All are welcome, jump in at anytime.
For reference:
5 Day Pouch Test (5DPT) website
http://www.5daypouchtest.com/plan/theplan.html
5 Day Pouch Test Instructions
http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/black_american/3995048/Hold-my-feet-to-the-fire-please-Accountability-Mision/
Protein Train Instructions
http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/black_american/3993571/Protein-Train-Educate-me-please/#32309205
Wagon Plan Instructions
http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/black_american/3650242/The-Wagon-Plan-Get-back-on-the-wagon
Overeaters Anonymous
Online Meetings Around the Clock * Information on changing eating behavior
Protein Sparing Modified Fast (PSMF)
The no op version. This version is still severe but far more liberal than the one many pre ops are given.
http://www.holisticmd.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/ProteinSparingModifiedFast.pdf
Daily calorie needs calculator
A more advanced calculator that's still easy to use.
Advanced option lets you choose from 3 different calculation methods. Enter data once for calorie needs at maintenance; plus calorie needs for 2 different levels of weight loss; and, results include a week long calorie cycling plan. Calculator takes into account age and gender as well as activity level. Links to other calculators are on the same page.
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm
Podrunner
Not just for runners. Site has a variety of workout music and music timed to progressive running programs for 5k, 8k, 10k, and speed. In place indoors, treadmill, or at the track run to the beat and you'll complete the stated distance. There is also a variety of interval training music from about 130 bpm up to to 180 bpm; and, fixed bpm workout music as well. Lengths of tracts vary but there is a speed/ length to suit most workout needs.
http://www.djsteveboy.com/mixes.html
A WORKOUT site to get you started or keep you going
http://www.exrx.net/index.html
No special equipment is required for this group of progressive workout programs designed for those new to it all and for those wanting to step it up a notch. Perhaps you can only do one or even none today. Perhaps you do quite a few already. Either extreme or somewhere in the middle, this self challenge is still for you.
http://www.twohundredsitups.com/
http://www.hundredpushups.com/
http://www.onefiftydips.com/
http://www.twohundredsquats.com/
http://www.twentyfivepullups.com/
USDA - database, nutrition facts
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/
TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH AND BE ACCOUNTABLE:
THERE IS ALWAYS A "WHY" BUT DO WE HAVE TO ACCEPT IT? Is it insufficient weight loss? Weight gain? Failure to meet your pre op goals to get wls approval? Difficulty doing this with diet and exercise alone?
What is your reason for being fat? Do you have to own it forever or can you let it go?
Pick one tihing that can make or break you today. Self sabotage opportunities always exist. Put it out there. No lies or self delusions. How are you really holding against your life time eating plan on a daily basis? How will you keep from breaking today? If you fall, what will it take to get right back up?
What is today's reason for doing less than you could? We can always find something that impedes our progress. The things that hold us back have a way of getting out attention. Have you noticed that the means to overcome our obstacles also stand up and cheer? Make a decision today: Will you focus on your desired outcome or on the obstacles to success.
TELL IT STRAIGHT PEOPLE. That is, be straight with YOURSELF. What are you eating? How are you exercising? What is working? What needs correcting? How are you objectively measuring your progress?
Think about what went well and what was not so nice recently. Consider what works for you and what is counter productive. Make a plan. Work your program. Be good to yourself today.
...All are welcome, jump in at anytime.
For reference:
5 Day Pouch Test (5DPT) website
http://www.5daypouchtest.com/plan/theplan.html
5 Day Pouch Test Instructions
http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/black_american/3995048/Hold-my-feet-to-the-fire-please-Accountability-Mision/
Protein Train Instructions
http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/black_american/3993571/Protein-Train-Educate-me-please/#32309205
Wagon Plan Instructions
http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/black_american/3650242/The-Wagon-Plan-Get-back-on-the-wagon
Overeaters Anonymous
Online Meetings Around the Clock * Information on changing eating behavior
Protein Sparing Modified Fast (PSMF)
The no op version. This version is still severe but far more liberal than the one many pre ops are given.
http://www.holisticmd.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/ProteinSparingModifiedFast.pdf
Daily calorie needs calculator
A more advanced calculator that's still easy to use.
Advanced option lets you choose from 3 different calculation methods. Enter data once for calorie needs at maintenance; plus calorie needs for 2 different levels of weight loss; and, results include a week long calorie cycling plan. Calculator takes into account age and gender as well as activity level. Links to other calculators are on the same page.
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm
Podrunner
Not just for runners. Site has a variety of workout music and music timed to progressive running programs for 5k, 8k, 10k, and speed. In place indoors, treadmill, or at the track run to the beat and you'll complete the stated distance. There is also a variety of interval training music from about 130 bpm up to to 180 bpm; and, fixed bpm workout music as well. Lengths of tracts vary but there is a speed/ length to suit most workout needs.
http://www.djsteveboy.com/mixes.html
A WORKOUT site to get you started or keep you going
http://www.exrx.net/index.html
No special equipment is required for this group of progressive workout programs designed for those new to it all and for those wanting to step it up a notch. Perhaps you can only do one or even none today. Perhaps you do quite a few already. Either extreme or somewhere in the middle, this self challenge is still for you.
http://www.twohundredsitups.com/
http://www.hundredpushups.com/
http://www.onefiftydips.com/
http://www.twohundredsquats.com/
http://www.twentyfivepullups.com/
USDA - database, nutrition facts
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/
MSW Roux-En-Y Gastric Bypass: Eat sensibly & enjoy moderation
Links: Are you a compulsive eater? for help OA meets on-line Keep Coming Back, One Day At a Time Overeaters Anonymous
L
V'N MY RNY. WORKING FOR ME BECAUSE I WORK FOR IT.
Topic: RE: MsLEE WHERE R U? THIS HISSY FIT NEEDS UR SUPPORT!
MsLee does this remind you of anything? 
I swear it looks to me like a low carb version of EFS which you know I could not stick with for God, love nor money. This is my next month people. 
Holy crap this camper is not a happy one but if it gets the fat off I will be.
My doc's "Jump Start" plan for weight gain
FOLLOW FOR TWO WEEKS
BREAKFAST :
- 1 SCOOP PROTEIN POWDER WITH 8OZ SKIM OR 1% MILK -OR- 1 RTD PROTEIN SHAKE
- 1 SMALL FRESH FRUIT -OR- 1/2 CUP DICED FRUIT
LUNCH :
- 1 SCOOP PROTEIN POWDER WITH 8OZ SKIM OR 1% MILK -OR- 1 RTD PROTEIN SHAKE
SNACK :
- 6 OZ LIGHT YOGURT -OR- 1/2 CUP LOW FAT COTTAGE CHEESE -OR- 1 STRING CHEESE
- 1 SMALL FRESH FRUIT -OR- 1/2 CUP DICED FRUIT
DINNER :
- 3 OZ PROTEIN (LEAN MEAT, FISH, OR POULTRY NOT BREADED OR FRIED)
- 2 OZ NON STARCHY VEGETABLES (NO POTATOES, CORN, PEAS, OR BEANS) IN 1 TABLESPOON OF OLIVE OIL
AFTER 2 WEEK JUMP START :
- EAT 3 MEALS AT REGULAR INTERVALS
- FOCUS ON PROTEIN (MEAT, LOW FAT CHEESE, EGGS, SEAFOOD, POULTRY) AT MEALS, 3-4 OUNCES AT EACH MEAL
- HAVE A FRUIT OR VEGETABLE AT EACH MEAL, ABOUT 2 OUNCES
- HAVE A SMALL DAIRY (LIGHT YOGURT, COTTAGE CHEESE, STRING CHEESE) AND FRUIT SNACK
- AVOID/ LIMIT STARCHY CARBOHYDRATES (BREAD, PASTA, CRACKERS, RICE, POTATOES, CORN, BEANS ETC)
To be fat or not to be fat. How bad do I want it? I want it enough to keep getting up each time I fall. We know I will fall repeatedly. Sure could use a dunkin donuts french cruller about now.
I swear it looks to me like a low carb version of EFS which you know I could not stick with for God, love nor money. This is my next month people. Holy crap this camper is not a happy one but if it gets the fat off I will be. My doc's "Jump Start" plan for weight gain
FOLLOW FOR TWO WEEKS
BREAKFAST :
- 1 SCOOP PROTEIN POWDER WITH 8OZ SKIM OR 1% MILK -OR- 1 RTD PROTEIN SHAKE
- 1 SMALL FRESH FRUIT -OR- 1/2 CUP DICED FRUIT
LUNCH :
- 1 SCOOP PROTEIN POWDER WITH 8OZ SKIM OR 1% MILK -OR- 1 RTD PROTEIN SHAKE
SNACK :
- 6 OZ LIGHT YOGURT -OR- 1/2 CUP LOW FAT COTTAGE CHEESE -OR- 1 STRING CHEESE
- 1 SMALL FRESH FRUIT -OR- 1/2 CUP DICED FRUIT
DINNER :
- 3 OZ PROTEIN (LEAN MEAT, FISH, OR POULTRY NOT BREADED OR FRIED)
- 2 OZ NON STARCHY VEGETABLES (NO POTATOES, CORN, PEAS, OR BEANS) IN 1 TABLESPOON OF OLIVE OIL
AFTER 2 WEEK JUMP START :
- EAT 3 MEALS AT REGULAR INTERVALS
- FOCUS ON PROTEIN (MEAT, LOW FAT CHEESE, EGGS, SEAFOOD, POULTRY) AT MEALS, 3-4 OUNCES AT EACH MEAL
- HAVE A FRUIT OR VEGETABLE AT EACH MEAL, ABOUT 2 OUNCES
- HAVE A SMALL DAIRY (LIGHT YOGURT, COTTAGE CHEESE, STRING CHEESE) AND FRUIT SNACK
- AVOID/ LIMIT STARCHY CARBOHYDRATES (BREAD, PASTA, CRACKERS, RICE, POTATOES, CORN, BEANS ETC)
To be fat or not to be fat. How bad do I want it? I want it enough to keep getting up each time I fall. We know I will fall repeatedly. Sure could use a dunkin donuts french cruller about now.
MSW Roux-En-Y Gastric Bypass: Eat sensibly & enjoy moderation
Links: Are you a compulsive eater? for help OA meets on-line Keep Coming Back, One Day At a Time Overeaters Anonymous
LV'N MY RNY. WORKING FOR ME BECAUSE I WORK FOR IT.
Topic: RE: HOLD MY FEET TO THE FIRE! ACCOUNTABILITY EVERY WEEK
The share button killed BAF. Folks did not want their wls issues on showing up on fb walls. We lost the best of our old school tell it like it is vets. 
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